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Lore

Trio Valore at the London Jazz Cafe!

As loads of you are travelling to London for the SM gig in November, I thought I'd pass on another concert tip for those of you who'll still be in London on the 30th: Trio Valore at the London Jazz Cafe. Should be good and the first round's on me Wink

http://www.myspace.com/triovaloreinc

Lore x
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Re: Trio Valore at the London Jazz Cafe!

Lore wrote:
As loads of you are travelling to London for the SM gig in November, I thought I'd pass on another concert tip for those of you who'll still be in London on the 30th: Trio Valore at the London Jazz Cafe. Should be good and the first round's on me Wink

http://www.myspace.com/triovaloreinc

Lore x


I'm afraid their rendition of "Dam Square" isn't too authentic!

EVERY time I walk across the Dam I usually hear "Pssst!  Pssst!  Charlie, XTC?" or "Excuse me!  Could you spare me an Euro?"! Wink

Anyway, good luck with the gig. Smile
Lore

Well the Dam better be ready for when I hit the town there in two weeks!
Any good after-gig drinking holes near Paradiso, that you can recommend  Smile
dforbes

I love the bar at the American Hotel Lore...

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Did you get my card yet auld yin?
Lore

dforbes wrote:
I love the bar at the American Hotel Lore...


Well that's probably where we'll end up, as the rest of the gang wants to sneak a peek at where the Weller fella's staying  Rolling Eyes ... I'm just gonna corner him in Brussels  Laughing
dforbes

There's a brilliant reataurant on Nieuwspiegelstraat too.


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dforbes wrote:
There's a brilliant reataurant on Nieuwspiegelstraat too.


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Nieuwe Spiegelstraat.

Which one, Derek?  Pasta e Basta?
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Lore wrote:
Well the Dam better be ready for when I hit the town there in two weeks!
Any good after-gig drinking holes near Paradiso, that you can recommend  Smile


I'd suggest that you try either Bourbon Street or The Last Waterhole, both are in the Leidseplein area, where The Paradiso's located.

http://www.bourbonstreet.nl/
http://www.waterhole.nl/

Derek's suggestion of the Bar Americain is also a worthwhile place to visit if you want a chat after the gig in less frenetic surroundings.  Nice Art Deco interior too.  Not a place if any of you are on a tight budget.

http://www.edenamsterdamamericanhotel.com/restaurant.aspx
Lore

Thanks for the recommendations guys.
Really enjoyed the Bar Americain, lovely place!
Great weekend all round  Very Happy
dforbes

Hooray.... Razz  Shocked  Very Happy  Laughing

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dforbes wrote:
Hooray.... Razz  Shocked  Very Happy  Laughing

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Derek, was it Pasta e Basta you were thinking of?
dforbes

Can't remember, but it was a set meal, and the restaurant was really plush. The chairs were half round leather armchairs, very comfortable. The decor was contemporary and very chic.

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FUNFOXYLADY007

Yeah he was standin ootside looking in with a greasy fish supper  Very Happy


Del's a fish batterer  Very Happy

Fun  Cool
xxxxx
dforbes

Aye...and you like yer sole



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Derek, if you want the VERY best Italian restaurant outside Tuscany on your next visit to Amsterdam and want a VERY romantic experience to boot, get the concierge to book you a 1st floor canal view table at Casa  Di David on Singel.  It's where baby's get made, divorce lawyers get their future accounts and anyone sitting at these three tables are guaranteed to be laid ... Oops!  I mean, of course, to be treated to the finest Italian food you'll have ever savoured.

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dforbes

My lovely wife and I may even have been in that restaurant, as we covered every inch of the Singel. We did like the 'Crouching Tiger' on Spui Straat (?). Good Thai food in there. Great wee coffee shop up a small street across from it, that played Hendrix all the time. It's time to go back.. Rolling Eyes


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FUNFOXYLADY007

That's a great idea and lovely Xmas prezzie  Very Happy

Well it's only roon the corner!!

Fun
I wish it could be Xmas everyday.......sing along

xxxx
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dforbes wrote:
My lovely wife and I may even have been in that restaurant, as we covered every inch of the Singel. We did like the 'Crouching Tiger' on Spui Straat (?). Good Thai food in there. Great wee coffee shop up a small street across from it, that played Hendrix all the time. It's time to go back.. Rolling Eyes


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Never heard of "Crouching Tiger", and didn't see it on any listings when I did a wee search.  I rate highly, The Bird on the Zeedijk (beside the RLD and amidst Amsterdam's "China Town"), as Amsterdam's best Thai restaurant.  As for the Coffeeshop, well, after giving up a 5-10 gramme a day(!) habit about 6 years back, as well as running a successful space cake/hash brownies business, I can't comment on what that coffeeshop would be!  I know that amongst the tourist 'cogniscenti', The Dampkring (featured heavily in Oceans 12) is one of the best respected for the quality and range of their products, but their sister shop"De Tweede Kamer" nearby is equally qualitive, but less frantic.  Locals have other hotspots! Wink
dforbes

When I say 'Crouching Tiger'..I mean that as the English translation of the Dutch. It is almost directly across from the NH City Hotel..


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dforbes wrote:
It is almost directly across from the NH City Hotel..


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Still no clue, mate!  

There are loads of restaurants in Madsterdam, as I'm sure you're aware.

I tend to avoid the pretencious and poncy, in-today-gone-tomorrow eateries/bars, as I'm sure you do too that come and go, like the daily evacuation of the Amsterdam canals/sewers and stick with those that are here today and even better tomorrow!

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dforbes

Kantjil und de Tijger. Spui Straat. Amsterdam.



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dforbes wrote:
Kantjil und de Tijger. Spui Straat. Amsterdam.



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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!  Kantjil und de Tijger.  That's Indonesian NOT Thai!  I'll post you an Atlas, Del!  What's the address, again?  Derek Forbes, THE BIG Mansion, Ailingrockstarsville, Somewhere, Perthshire, SCOTLAND, PH818283 84GM, The British Isles? Wink

It's an EXCELLENT restaurant!

How come it's only the rich and shameless tourists that know their way around the good and the GREAT places in Amsterdam?  Is their a special concierge service you can call? Dial-900-famed-musician-concierge-services?  Or do SAGA offer a concierge service now too? *runs from a rapidly swung Vigier Passion* (I would actually stand up and try and catch it, if flung!) Wink

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dream attack

At YOUR age Derek, allowances HAVE to made, I reckon! Wink

Was the text from your Xmas cards last year along the lines of ...

"Hello Doris,

Happy Easter 1953.

From all your friends at the Alzheimers Society"?

Wink
Lore

dream attack wrote:
dforbes wrote:
Kantjil und de Tijger. Spui Straat. Amsterdam.



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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!  Kantjil und de Tijger.  That's Indonesian NOT Thai!  I'll post you an Atlas, Del!  What's the address, again?  Derek Forbes, THE BIG Mansion, Ailingrockstarsville, Somewhere, Perthshire, SCOTLAND, PH818283 84GM, The British Isles? Wink

It's an EXCELLENT restaurant!

How come it's only the rich and shameless tourists that know their way around the good and the GREAT places in Amsterdam?  Is their a special concierge service you can call? Dial-900-famed-musician-concierge-services?  Or do SAGA offer a concierge service now too? *runs from a rapidly swung Vigier Passion* (I would actually stand up and try and catch it, if flung!) Wink

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Kantjil en de Tijger, we went to eat there when I was in Amsterdam for work. Loved it on the evening itself! Too bad the spicy dishes I had (love spicy food), didn't agree with the starting stomach ulcer I apparently had at the time  Rolling Eyes . Sort of ruined the memory of the great food...
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Lore wrote:
dream attack wrote:
dforbes wrote:
Kantjil und de Tijger. Spui Straat. Amsterdam.



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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!  Kantjil und de Tijger.  That's Indonesian NOT Thai!  I'll post you an Atlas, Del!  What's the address, again?  Derek Forbes, THE BIG Mansion, Ailingrockstarsville, Somewhere, Perthshire, SCOTLAND, PH818283 84GM, The British Isles? Wink

It's an EXCELLENT restaurant!

How come it's only the rich and shameless tourists that know their way around the good and the GREAT places in Amsterdam?  Is their a special concierge service you can call? Dial-900-famed-musician-concierge-services?  Or do SAGA offer a concierge service now too? *runs from a rapidly swung Vigier Passion* (I would actually stand up and try and catch it, if flung!) Wink

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Kantjil en de Tijger, we went to eat there when I was in Amsterdam for work. Loved it on the evening itself! Too bad the spicy dishes I had (love spicy food), didn't agree with the starting stomach ulcer I apparently had at the time  Rolling Eyes . Sort of ruined the memory of the great food...


Too bad,  Lore.

As a complete off topic (I likes me 'tangents'!  Wink), the colonialisation and/or enslavement (the Dutch WERE, after all, the LAST nation in the Western World to abolish slavery - yet ANOTHER 'proud'  Dutch FACT!) of Suriname, The Antilles and Indonesia has brought Roti's ( a kind of pancake served up with curried meat), and Rijstafels to popularity in NL.  What's the ethnic colonial food in Belgium?  Congonese ???.

As another aside, my ex-Dutch g/f told me that in Belgium, Water Konijn is a delicacy. I believe the English translation means "Water Rabbit", but most know it as Rat!  Is that true?

I love Brussels at Xmas time ... the food IS great and the Grande Place is unfeckinglybelievable at night all lit-up.  As for the rest ... no offence intended ... yawn and snore ... Wink

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dforbes

ahhh...but what about TinTin et Milou? Superb. Remy Georges? R.G. or errrr jayyy.. Canny whack it wi' a stick...


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dforbes wrote:
ahhh...but what about TinTin et Milou? Superb. Remy Georges? R.G. or errrr jayyy.. Canny whack it wi' a stick...


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Do they make up for Hercule Poirot and The Smurfs? Wink
dream attack

Derek, still going to send you an atlas though, pal! Wink
dforbes

Hey ! there's nothing wrong with my history...


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Lore

dream attack wrote:


As a complete off topic (I likes me 'tangents'!  Wink), the colonialisation and/or enslavement (the Dutch WERE, after all, the LAST nation in the Western World to abolish slavery - yet ANOTHER 'proud'  Dutch FACT!) of Suriname, The Antilles and Indonesia has brought Roti's ( a kind of pancake served up with curried meat), and Rijstafels to popularity in NL.  What's the ethnic colonial food in Belgium?  Congonese ???.

As another aside, my ex-Dutch g/f told me that in Belgium, Water Konijn is a delicacy. I believe the English translation means "Water Rabbit", but most know it as Rat!  Is that true?

I love Brussels at Xmas time ... the food IS great and the Grande Place is unfeckinglybelievable at night all lit-up.  As for the rest ... no offenceintended ... yawn and snore ... Wink


There's hardly been any influence from the colonies on Belgian cuisine... but then again, we did have a cuisine to start with while I can't really imagine any typically Dutch dishes  Wink . And besides some grocery stores in the African/Congolese quarter of Brussels, there are hardly any African restaurants. One very good Ethiopian place, though... yummie.

And yep "waterkonijn" or as we call it "muskusrat" (cause it's more of a huge rat than a rabbit) is considered to be a delicacy in some (very small) parts of Flanders, but it's starting to disappear (mainly because only old folk still prepare it). I've been told that it ressembles rabbit, though the meat is a bit tougher.

As for Brussels... well, it has its moments. It would be an incredible city if it would get cleaned up and if people felt a bit more pride for their city. But December is probably my favourite month of the year as well: I live in the old city centre, so because of the x-mas market there's a special atmosphere (and I don't really have too much hassle from the tourist overload)... and every day there's a new food/drink stall to try out  Laughing
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Lore wrote:
dream attack wrote:


As a complete off topic (I likes me 'tangents'!  Wink), the colonialisation and/or enslavement (the Dutch WERE, after all, the LAST nation in the Western World to abolish slavery - yet ANOTHER 'proud'  Dutch FACT!) of Suriname, The Antilles and Indonesia has brought Roti's ( a kind of pancake served up with curried meat), and Rijstafels to popularity in NL.  What's the ethnic colonial food in Belgium?  Congonese ???.

As another aside, my ex-Dutch g/f told me that in Belgium, Water Konijn is a delicacy. I believe the English translation means "Water Rabbit", but most know it as Rat!  Is that true?

I love Brussels at Xmas time ... the food IS great and the Grande Place is unfeckinglybelievable at night all lit-up.  As for the rest ... no offenceintended ... yawn and snore ... Wink


There's hardly been any influence from the colonies on Belgian cuisine... but then again, we did have a cuisine to start with while I can't really imagine any typically Dutch dishes  Wink . And besides some grocery stores in the African/Congolese quarter of Brussels, there are hardly any African restaurants. One very good Ethiopian place, though... yummie.

And yep "waterkonijn" or as we call it "muskusrat" (cause it's more of a huge rat than a rabbit) is considered to be a delicacy in some (very small) parts of Flanders, but it's starting to disappear (mainly because only old folk still prepare it). I've been told that it ressembles rabbit, though the meat is a bit tougher.

As for Brussels... well, it has its moments. It would be an incredible city if it would get cleaned up and if people felt a bit more pride for their city. But December is probably my favourite month of the year as well: I live in the old city centre, so because of the x-mas market there's a special atmosphere (and I don't really have too much hassle from the tourist overload)... and every day there's a new food/drink stall to try out  Laughing


Thanks for the reply, Lore.

I believe that Ethiopia was a former Italian colony, so what's an Ethiopian dish?  Dried Antelope with Fettucini? Wink

I was once in Brussels at Xmas and was dismayed about the general dreariness of the place.  The back streets and the buildings in the centre were filthy, it reminded me VERY much of poor Parisian suburban backstreets.  And, another impression was, the greyness of the skin hues of people on the metro, compared to the 'typical' Dutch ruddy cheeks and blonde hair was a culture shock.

One everlasting memory I have was arriving at Brussel's Midi Station and descending into the Metro, where I first enquired, in Dutch, how much a ticket was to the nearest Metro to the Holiday Inn.  (I don't speak Dutch, came the reply, in French).  Okay, in English, same question. (I don't speak English, came the reply, yet again in French!).   My inscenced reply was something along the lines of "Listen, you ignorant fvckwit!  We're in the capitol of the EU and you don't speak English and don't speak Dutch?  Get a fecking life, retard!"  Wink

Anyway, I returned a few months later and stayed near the (formerly named) Heysel Stadium, beside the Atomium.  That was a VERY weird experience!!!  In most places I’ve visited there are out-of-town shopping malls featuring Pets R Us, Toyz R Us, etc.  However, here we found mock cobbled streets lined with “El Ranchero” Mexican-themed bar, “Homer’s Duff Beer Bar” American-themed bar, et al.  Okay, the names may be an exaggeration, as my memory is a wee bit addled to the true names 6 or 7 years on, but I clearly recall we ended up in a karaoke bar in this false out-of-town  “entertainment mall” around 2 a.m. where we saw 7 or-at-a-push, maybe, 8 year-old girls being shuffled up by their proud parents on stage to warble to renditions of “Simply The Best”, etc.   Utterly shocking/depressing!

That said.  My mate, Bill, went down to Brussels about 6 months ago, on some highly overpaid IT contract. He’s loving it!

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